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Welcome to the Money Magic Podcast with Vangile Makwakwa, this is the podcast where we talk about trauma and how it affects our finances and our lives. The intention with this podcast is to provide you with weekly episodes that help you understand the importance of healing and help you understand your relationship with money better so you can start making different financial decisions and creating a life you love for yourself and future generations.
Episodes

Friday Jan 07, 2022
Friday Jan 07, 2022
This week I talked to Lisa Kuzman, a leadership coach in the business space. Lisa works with coaches to teach them how to be trauma-sensitive. She also offers trauma-sensitive business and leadership coaching to business owners with a history of trauma. Lisa is a trauma survivor and former social worker and she has worked with different administrations which she says are the root of her passion for trauma coaching
When you have a very big emotional reaction to things that are out of context, that is a signal that you're probably experiencing trauma that you’re not aware of. You can’t prevent trauma triggers from occurring and it’s important to be aware and learn how your unique trauma presents and the unique needs you’ve in those moments. You can do some healing and it can shift your response but you’ve to attend to yourself with self-love and kindness in every situation.
Join the conversation with Lisa as she shares her trauma history, healing journey and how she got into trauma-sensitive coaching space. Healing from trauma was transformational for Lisa, it helped her to shift from not making money, working 60 hours a week, and the fear of raising her rate not to abandon people to making a sustainable living, embodying self-love, self-trust and self-confidence in a balanced way, being transparency about her traumas and attending to her needs with self-compassion.
Tune in!
Click play on the video below to watch.

Friday Dec 31, 2021
Episode 48: The myth of overcharging
Friday Dec 31, 2021
Friday Dec 31, 2021
Last week on the Money Magic Podcast, I did a class on the fear of invoicing people and the fear of asking people to pay us. In this week’s podcast episode I am sharing a live class I did a while back on pricing in the #MoneyMagic student group.
Most times we’re scared to invoice people because we’re scared they won’t pay us because our prices are too high.
In this class I share why this is simple not true and why it’s not about the money.
Pricing is NOT the reason people don't buy; I have had people drop their jaws when they hear my price for my coaching and courses. To them it's too low.
And other people freak out that it's too high.
There’s a market for you, no matter what your pricing looks like. In fact there is a danger in under pricing.
Click play to listen.
PS: If this is resonating with you and are ready to start changing your finances, fully step into your power and start creating magic by tapping into your ancestral wisdom, then I have great news for you: I have created a Money Journal that you will love, you can learn more about the journal at this link: wealthy-money.com/journal

Friday Dec 24, 2021
Episode 47: Releasing the fear of invoicing and charging for our services
Friday Dec 24, 2021
Friday Dec 24, 2021
The fear of asking for money is a traumatic response from negative experiences with money. It can affect your behaviours around money, business revenue and your ability to negotiate for money.
Society has told us that it’s wrong to want money, and most of us undercharge our services because we fear being rejected and talking about money, which creates burnout at some point.
Pricing your services right will help you shift how you show up in a whole different way, which mean more to your clients and business. But how can you feel safe and at ease when pricing your products, sending invoices and asking for money, Join the conversation with your host Vangile Makwakwa as she shares a live class “tapping into ancestral money wisdom training” day four training on pricing.
To help you understand how money traumas affect your behaviours around pricing and how you can get over it and heal. Unlocking the ancestral wisdom has helped her pay off $60,000 in debts, buy properties and launch and grow her company Wealthy Money in a six-figure (US dollars) business as she travel and live in different countries all over the globe.
Tune in!
During this episode, you will learn about:
[00:14] Introduction into the episode
[02:28] What’s in for you in today’s episode
[05:19] The trauma around pricing and asking for money
[10:39] Caring about your passion and charging your worth
[12:38] Negotiating for money and getting paid enough for what we do
[18:10] Pricing your services and charging your worth
[22:32] Inching up your price slowly until you’re comfortable while doing the work
[24:21] Why people want to first experience you before paying a higher price
[27:44] Day 4’s meditation: Breathwork around the belief that it’s not safe to have money
[28:52] Why we don’t start with affirmation around deep issues around money safety
[33:58] Why affirmation work for some people and not for others
[37:59] Digging into the ancestral money traumas blocking you from pricing through meditation
[41:33] The practical side of meditation and how to measure if it’s working
[45:55] Call to action and ending the episode
Notable Quotes
Pricing your services right will help you shift how you show for your clients.
The role of the mind is to keep us alive, and if it associates asking for money with danger, it could eventually lead to death.
The more you’re able to sustain yourself in what brings you fulfilment, the more you continue to do it.
Danger equals possible death.
When we force the mind to accept a reality we don’t believe in, it will fight us more.
Only you can know the truth of your situation.

Friday Dec 10, 2021
Friday Dec 10, 2021
In this week’s #MoneyMagic Podcast episode I talk to Claire Phutieagae, the founder of Tshiamelo Inclusive Education Center (TIEC), an inclusive school for children with and without learning barriers.
Claire is also a community Liaison officer for a solar company, and she specialises in community development projects.
She has worked in education for 13 years, and that’s what inspired her schooling system to bring change. She’s also a healer, and she loves working with people to help them expand and transform into their best version.
In this podcast episode, Claire stresses that money is energy, and how you treat it is the way it will give back to you.
Money is also an empowering tool, and it has enabled her to expand and achieve her dreams. Healing from money trauma allows you not just to work with your brain but also with your whole body.
When the two agree, it’s time to move forward and expand.
In this episode Claire explains that taking the course helped her get in touch with her inner child, achieve goals in life, and change her relationship with money.
She shares how healing her money trauma, helped her change the way she and her husband talk about money and helped her open up about her finances, which changed the dynamic of their relationship when it comes to money.
She was always the toxic one when it came to money. But the healing has allowed her to deal with money honestly and comfortably, clear all her debts, buy the plot where the school is, do the things she had always wanted to without worrying about where the money would come from and understand her finances well.
This is another incredible episode. Click play to listen and leave us a comment in the comments section below.
During this episode, you will learn about:
[03:57] Claire’s career background
[06:44] Changing the world through inclusivity
[08:17] The benefits of inclusive learning in skills development
[12:21] Claire’s definition of money and what money mean to her
[14:52] When Claire discovered that relationship with money was more than budgeting
[23:24] The Wealthy Money lesson that shifted Claire towards her healing
[28:16] Breaking the vows on different ancestral planes
[32:56] Going through the releasing process and healing from trauma
[35:06] Why crying is healing
[39:15] Period days and what they are critical to every woman
[44:38] Claire new definition for trauma and ancestral trauma since she started the course
[52:46] How the #MoneyMagic course helped Claire get in touch with her inner child and heal from money trauma
[01:03:25] Making money while working with the mind and body in harmony
[01:06:28] How Claire healing has changed her life and perspectives around money
Notable Quotes:
- Making the world better through separation will not work; inclusivity is the key.
- Money is an energy, and how you treat it is the way it will give back.
- Trauma begets more trauma.
- It’s okay not to be okay; it’s okay to be in touch with the feminine side.
- Understanding the whys is a part of the healing process.
Connect With Us:
Claire Phutieagae
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/claire-golebamang-phutieagae-
Facebook: https://web.facebook.com/claire.phutieagae?_
Vangile Makwakwa
Website: https://www.wealthy-money.com/moneymagic
LinkedIn: https://www.instagram.com/vangilemakwakwa/
Instagram: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vangilemakwakwa/
PS: If this is resonating with you and are ready to start changing your finances, fully step into your power and start creating magic by tapping into your ancestral wisdom, then I have great news for you: I have created a Money Journal that you will love, you can learn more about the journal at this link: wealthy-money.com/journal

Thursday Dec 02, 2021
Episode 45: Using Emotional Intelligence to Transform Your Finances
Thursday Dec 02, 2021
Thursday Dec 02, 2021
In this week’s podcast, I talk to Lettia Moroke, a telecommunication specialist at Regulatory Icasa (The Independent Communication Authorities of South Africa).
Lettia specialises in Mobile network performance across the network. After working for a number of years, Lettia foresaw herself taking the same path as her father.
He worked hard for many years but didn’t have anything tangible to show. She wanted something different, and becoming aware of whys and building her money story was the right path.
We’re all wounded, and we need different attention to heal. Your relationship with money is a journey, and you need healing to achieve financial freedom. If you want more money, the answer is not limiting. It’s expansion and channelling.
Money is energy and a ticket to convenience, and when you’ve it, you can buy yourself the convenience you desire.
In the podcast she shares how taking the course has allowed her to shift from her fixed academic perspective to developing a healthy relationship with money.
She has fallen in love with her bank account, which has given her control over her finances. Financial Freedom! Lettia has shifted her life from limiting to expansion, becoming aware of her investment and where to channel resources for growth.
This is another incredible episode. Click play to listen and leave us a comment in the comments section below.
During this episode, you will learn about:
[03:30] Lettia’s career backstory
[06:18] Lettia’s description and definition of money
[09:00] When Lettia realised money was more than budgeting and numbers
[14:42] Lettia’s experience before starting her journey with wealth money course
[19:45] Letta’s aha moments while doing the money course
[25:05] Vangile “The host” aha moments of self-discovery after college
[27:21] Supporting the young generation in their passion
[31:33] Letta’s definition of ancestral trauma in relationship to money
[41:21] Growing your relationship with the ancestors
[43:10] How Lettia’s relationship with money changed after taking the course
[48:38] How Lettia’s spending has transformed
[52:48] Lettia’s income and investments shift as a result of the money course
[59:45] The lessons that had the most profound impact
Notable Quotes:
- Money is an energy that can be exchanged.
- Relationship with money is a journey.
- It’s okay to be scared when choosing your passion.
- If you want more money, you need to focus on expansion.
Contact Lettia:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lettia.kharoli
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lettiakharoli/
PS: If this is resonating with you and are ready to start changing your finances, fully step into your power and start creating magic by tapping into your ancestral wisdom, then I have great news for you: I have created a Money Journal that you will love, you can learn more about the journal at this link: wealthy-money.com/journal

Friday Nov 26, 2021
Friday Nov 26, 2021
In this week’s episode of the #MoneyMagic Podcast, I sit down to talk to my friend and accountability partner, Agnes Zausz, an Intimacy and Embodiment Coach, about her healing journey.
Agnes is curious, open, playful and believes in flirting with life; she weaves and dances with incorporating sensuality, embodiment, being present with everything that is around her.
She has worked as an entrepreneur since 2014 and has started businesses that thrived, events that were sold out, retreats that were deep and transformational and have worked with women all around the world, curated experiences that bring the teachings into life.
In this podcast, we talk about getting turned on by life - how to flirt and play with life and fully immerse yourself in all that you take on.
We talk about why healing is crucial to being fully present with life and enjoying the process.
Trauma blocks us and numbs us from feeling into our bodies and receiving, so in this podcast, Agnes also shares some simple exercises we can do in order to start receiving more from life/universe.
She explains that to her money means freedom, it means choice, it means impact, it means the ability to show up bigger and have more space to exist, taking in all that life has to offer.
It means generosity, it means the ability to breathe with ease knowing I am taken care of by an energy that is vibrating around us always.
This is another incredible episode. Click play below to listen and please share far and wide.
Timestamps:
[00:00] How to get turned on by life and live from your full embodied and sensual self
[01:24] Introducing Agnes
[05:54] Why self-care is such an important part of the engine (body)
[13:06] Doing work around money
[21:12] What it means to be numbed out by your own positivity
[30:19] Being scared to go into the darkness of ourselves
[45:09] Moving with the elements of life and not being rigid
[55:10] Dating when you feel like you're an independent woman
[1:13:47] Restorative yoga classes
[1:24:42] Contact Agnes
Contact Agnes:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/agnes.zausz
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.flirt.queen/
If this is resonating with you and are ready to start changing your finances, fully step into your power and start creating magic by tapping into your ancestral wisdom, then I have great news for you: I have created a Money Journal that you will love, you can learn more about the journal at this link: wealthy-money.com/journal

Thursday Nov 18, 2021
Episode 43: How to find long-lasting joy and make money living your purpose
Thursday Nov 18, 2021
Thursday Nov 18, 2021
In this week’s episode of the #MoneyMagic podcast, I chat to one of my clients - Reinier Smit, who is originally from the Netherlands and is currently based there, after living in South Africa for 10 years.
Reinier worked in South Africa and Europe as a Script Supervisor and a Director, his true passion is telling stories with images, which is how he ended up in the film industry.
In the podcast, he shares how he changed his career and started focusing on his own projects and making decisions based on his own instincts and wishes. He currently has several film projects in cinema and is working on others.
Reinier explains that he sees money as a tool to express your creativity, make your dreams real in the world, whilst also supporting others to do the same.
He explains that this was not always the case - he used to have a negative relationship with money because he always saw the lack of money as a block to reaching his goals and he always made his decisions based on money.
He always thought he needed to have a lot of money to make certain decisions and start creating and making movies, which held him up for a long time. So his bank account was great, but he was still being controlled by money and wasn’t living his best life.
Through the coaching, he realized it was not either/or - he could make money doing what he loves. He didn’t have to choose and he realized that the way you look at money, is the way you look at yourself.
We chat about the complexity of making money and having money in your bank account but not living a life of purpose. We also explore themes of surrender and finding joy in everyday things.
This is another jam-packed episode where Reinier takes us through his realisations about money, creativity, intuition and living in your purpose.
Click play to listen to this episode and leave us a comment below.
Timestamps:
[02:30] Introducing Reinier
[04:13] Who are you and what do you do?
[07:00] Defining money
[09:08] Having a negative relationship with money
[12:50] How to live your purpose and make money
[14:44] Helpful money insights for creatives
[19:55] Experience of past lives
[24:00] The difference between ancestral and past life trauma
[28:00] The sense of relief of healing trauma
[31:26] How has your definition of trauma changed
[37:39] The way you look at money is the way you look at yourself
[40:50] Three shifts on how your life has changed
[42:33] Not listening to your calling is more exhausting
[47:20] Enjoying the process of creating
[48:58] Trusting the process
[51:06] The joy of the process
[54:47] Finding joy in the mundane
[56:05] Forms of joy that last forever
[58:51] Falling in love with life
Contact Reinier:
Email: info@reiniersmit.com
Website: https://www.reiniersmit.com/
If this is resonating with you and are ready to start changing your finances, fully step into your power and start creating magic by tapping into your ancestral wisdom, then I have great news for you: I have created a Money Journal that you will love, you can learn more about the journal at this link: wealthy-money.com/journal

Friday Nov 12, 2021
Episode 42: Why it’s so hard to take action on financial goals we desire
Friday Nov 12, 2021
Friday Nov 12, 2021
In this week’s podcast, I do a class explaining why the best laid financial plans go horribly wrong and why we have a hard time taking action on our financial goals.
To make our goals a reality we have to take action and execute our strategy.
But why is it that you can have a clear strategy, be excited about it, not be able to execute on said strategy and even sabotage yourself in the process?
The answer to that lies in our sub-personalities, in particular, the wounded parts of us; when we set an income goal, these parts of us work against us and block our progress in an effort to keep us safe.
The adult you at this moment really wants to increase their income and pay off debt, but the parts of you that are still wounded and stuck in the trauma around money, are trying to avoid money in an effort to survive and stay safe.
It is like driving with the accelerator and the brake at the same time.
The wounded parts (ancestral, childhood, teens or past life) don’t feel safe or feel ashamed or guilty or like they are betraying their family when they make their desired income goal so they block it or they get rid of that money as soon as they make it - they start to sabotage us and work against us in an effort to stay safe.
On the surface, it seems like self-sabotage, but it’s just parts of us trying to keep us safe.
So even when we know what practical steps to take to make the goal a reality, like maybe sending an invoice to a client or posting a sales post on social media, we find ourselves procrastinating or delaying or freaking out, so a 5-minute action, becomes a 5 hour or 5-day action.
Now imagine what magic we can create when those parts of us feel safe, and start to use that same energy, not to block money but receive money and to support us to create a consistent stream of income?
This episode may shed a lot of light for you, click play below to listen to this episode.
The magic is in the healing.
If you’re ready to fully step into your power and start creating magic by tapping into your ancestral wisdom, then I have great news for you: I have created a Money Journal that you will love, you can learn more about the journal at this link: wealthy-money.com/journal

Friday Nov 05, 2021
Bonus Episode: Transforming pain into an extraordinary life
Friday Nov 05, 2021
Friday Nov 05, 2021
Welcome back to another episode of the #MoneyMagic podcast.
Today I welcome Shazia Imam to the show to have a conversation about her life journey and how she grew from desiring a typical standard life of marriage, kids, and a white picket fence to breaking through to her true self.
Shazia is the daughter of two loving Indian parents, born and raised in the U.S. but brought up with traditional Indian values.
Growing up, Shazia followed a life path by the book; she excelled in school, got into a good university, graduated as an Engineer, got married, and had a beautiful son.
Yet, after a series of unfortunate events, Shazia lost it all - her son passed on and her husband left soon after. Shazia found herself alone for the first time, feeling like an empty vessel with suicidal ideation. But flowers always grow from the ashes.
During her most major life-altering events, Shazia discovered the power within herself, the power of connection, collaboration, and natural power – all geared towards femininity.
This resurgence of self gave her the inspiration she needed to come into her power and dive into the paradigm of the feminine. From this, her podcast Feminine and Fulfilled was born.
Shazia knew that she wanted to help women thrive, but she couldn’t do it with a podcast alone; she needed the skill to back it up. So, she took a chance and invested US$14,000 in a leadership retreat.
Having never spent this amount of money on herself, Shazia felt guilty but determined, and now being on the other side of that, Shazia discovered that life-changing events like these go beyond price.
Today Shazia is a successful life coach and podcaster; her vision to help women is laser-focused, and her relationship with the divine is unmatched!
This is another incredible episode, click play to listen and leave a comment below.
Timestamps:
[02:14] Bonus episode #2
[02:35] Introduction to Shazia Imam
[05:55] Feminine and Fulfilled
[08:29] Inspiration for the podcast
[10:25] Journey into life coaching
[15:50] Hitting rock bottom
[18:41] What does it mean to just be?
[22:22] Be who you are, don’t change who you are
[23:46] Surrender and acceptance
[32:10] Trust issues with the divine
[36:00] Catholic conditioning
[37:51] Seeing the divine as your friend
[45:20] Leadership retreat
[51:56] Feeling stuck and controlling the outcome
[54:45] Asking yourself “Will I regret not having done this?”
[59:01] Living life with integrity
Contact Shazia:
Feminine and Fulfilled podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/feminine-fulfilled/id1347262113
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ShaziaTLE
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thelifeengineer/
PS: Shazia interviewed me on her podcast - Feminine and Fulfilled. You can check out the episode, click here to listen to the podcast.

Friday Oct 29, 2021
Bonus Episode: Teaching bridgewalkers to build visionary businesses
Friday Oct 29, 2021
Friday Oct 29, 2021
Welcome back to another episode of the #MoneyMagic podcast. Today I am joined by Manasi Kakade to discuss her work as a practical spiritual mentor for Bridgewalker visionaries. Bridgewalkers are analytical and critical thinkers that are fascinated by spirituality and are on this planet for a specific purpose.
Bridgewalkers are born to assist the ascension of our planet by collectively ushering in new social systems and structures rooted in love, kindness and equality of all souls.
Manasi graduated from university with an MBA and trained as an engineer. She leveraged her skills to teach women how to negotiate their salaries, helping them gain an additional 40% in some cases.
Yet, all the potential she could see in others, she was unable to see in herself. It wasn’t until her own client pointed out that her prices did not match what she should be charging, what her actual worth was. It was then that Manasi realized that her money mindset was not aligned.
Her husband, for example, viewed money as something to play with and a lot to come to you. He was able to manifest money with ease by asking for increased expenses because with higher expenses comes higher salaries and the ability to enjoy your money.
Manasi had lived her whole life afraid of spending money, she would hoard it, and as a result, money had control over her and not the other way around.
Now, as a seasoned spiritual mentor and expert in money mindset, Manasi is able to teach her students how to coexist with both the physical and spiritual necessities that will allow them to ascend with grace into their next chapter in life!
We also cover the chakra system and Manasi shares with podcast listeners how to get access to her free chakra course.
This is another incredible episode, click play to listen and share your thoughts in the comments below.
Timestamps:
[02:11] Bonus episode
[03:00] Introduction to Manasi Kakade
[04:04] Background on Manasi
[08:22] Coexist between spiritual and physical
[09:58] Systems and structures
[11:48] Earth is like a school
[14:00] Trained as an engineer
[17:05] Teaching women how to negotiate their salaries
[18:51] Money Mindset
[20:33] Increasing expenses
[26:56] Getting caught up in what we “should” do
[31:30] The coaching/healing industry
[38:47] Living life manipulated
[41:30] Develop conviction in your own work
[44:14] Healing work for burnout
[53:00] Liberating who you are
[54:00] How has your healing journey changed the way you feel about money?
[57:38] Never feeling safe no matter the income
Contact Manasi:
Website: https://www.manasikakade.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/manasi.kakade
One becomes an entrepreneur by doing, and often by doing the uncomfortable and scary ish like selling, asking people who owe you money to pay you, charging the prices you want, hiring others...
That uncomfortable stuff, is where the inner work makes the biggest difference, when we do the work, it gets easier to take action consistently and scale our businesses.
If you feel ready to start working on your business and creating a consistent stream of income of R40,000/US$2,500 or more per month, then check out and register for the #MoneyMagic course here: wealthy-money.com/moneymagic
I will open up the course for registration soon, only for people on that list.